• Jan 22, 2020 · For ZEN2 CPUs the HWiNFO CPU temp reports are 3 or 4* distinct readings, directly drawn from CPU itself. 1. CPU (Tctl/Tdie) 2. CPU Die (average) 3. CPU CCD1 (Tdie) *4. CPU CCD2 (Tdie) *(If CPU has second CCD) ZEN2 CPUs have multiple sensors inside. At least 50 sensors per coreCCD. 1. Is the absolute higher temp inside all the CPU package.
      • Apr 20, 2018 · It's some sort of conflict between the f23d BIOS, and the way that Corsair AIO's report temperatures (have an H110i GT, and recently upgraded my 1700 to a 2700X). If you check the socket temps instead of tctl/tdie, you'll see they are totally fine & normal. For now there isn't much one can do except roll back to f22 and wait for Gigabyte to fix it.
      • Mar 14, 2017 · In a post on their official blog, AMD explained that their 7 series CPUs have a sensor called "T Control".Otherwise called tCTL, it's the primary sensor on the Ryzen series of CPUs that reports ...
    • Apr 02, 2017 · What I'm finding is that in Package in HWMon, CPU (Tctl) in HWiNFO, and Temperature in Ryzen Master are all the same (they'll show different temps at times due to their update speed, as well as decimal place differences due to being coded different), which on the 1700X and 1800X is the temp you're supposed to SUBTRACT 20C from in order to get ...
      • Tdie was just recently added to HWInfo. I'm guessing its temp of the CCD in the CPU, and Tctl/Tdie is maybe the whole CPU package (including IMC). Tctl/tdie and tdie are both pretty close (not +10 of eachother), I'd say they're both useful. level 1
      • Aug 31, 2017 · Just make sure to put it on relatively thin, and only over the cores, not to the edge of the spreader, otherwise it could run over and cause trouble, also very thinly wet the CPU block with it. Why am I even telling this, like you don't know how to apply that stuff, har.
      • The difference between Tctl vs. Tdie depends on presence of a fixed Tctl_offset, which is specific for each CPU model. Some CPUs have that offset (then Tdie = Tctl - Tctl_offset), some don't (Tdie = Tctl). HWiNFO uses an universal method to determine Tctl_offset, it doesn't have values hard-coded for each model.
      • Yeah I've just downloaded the latest Beta version, it has some new things there. Now I have a 'CPU Tdie' temperature under AMD Ryzen 1700X right under 'CPU Tctl'. Is this the real CPU temp because of that offset thing on the 1700X and 1800X CPUs? I still can't find the VRM temperature for the motherboard though.
      • I have a quick question. HWinfo shows me that my ram is running at 3733MHz Cas 16 but in the BIOS it is set to 3733MHZ Cas 15? Have a Gigabyte Aorus X470 Gaming Mobo and Ballistic Sport 3000MHZ C15 Edie kit. CPU is 3700X.
      • The difference between Tctl vs. Tdie depends on presence of a fixed Tctl_offset, which is specific for each CPU model. Some CPUs have that offset (then Tdie = Tctl - Tctl_offset), some don't (Tdie = Tctl). HWiNFO uses an universal method to determine Tctl_offset, it doesn't have values hard-coded for each model.
      • Aug 03, 2017 · Tctl should be the right one, also check Ryzen Master it should be the must accurate (reports same temp as Tctl for me). For the custom fan curve i have to set always 10c less than the wanted temp to get it working correctly, because the cpu temp reading from the mobo in windows is always -10c than the real one for me.
      • Tdie is the temperature on the die, so that's the one you want to concentrate on. Tctl is the control temperature, which is what gets reported to your cooling system. The 20C offset is to get it to kick in sooner (it's only for the X versions). The third one is the temperature of the motherboard by the CPU.
      • The Tdie figure is supposed to be the actual CPU Temp. Tctl is a control temperature that is used for reporting to the cpu fan for cooling purposes, and thus is always higher than the Tdie figure. Tdie is reported correcting in HWMonitor (as Temperature: Package (Node 0)) and HWiNFO in comparison.
      • Feb 20, 2017 · When using the HwInfo plugin, the temperature being shown didn't match any of the sensors in HWiNFO64, even when both that and AB were set to the same polling interval (1000ms). It looked like it was the same as the "CPU (Tctl/Tdie)", but with a slight delay.
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      • I have a quick question. HWinfo shows me that my ram is running at 3733MHz Cas 16 but in the BIOS it is set to 3733MHZ Cas 15? Have a Gigabyte Aorus X470 Gaming Mobo and Ballistic Sport 3000MHZ C15 Edie kit. CPU is 3700X.
      • On UEFI 1403, for X CPU, also set Sense MI Skew: Disabled. tCTL has had the 20°C offset removed but CPU Sensor under "Asus Crosshair VI Hero" section of HWiNFO, has not been set to match tCTL in the case of X CPU. CPU Sensor is Super IO Chip reading of tCTL and removing a further 20°C.
      • Aug 03, 2017 · Tctl should be the right one, also check Ryzen Master it should be the must accurate (reports same temp as Tctl for me). For the custom fan curve i have to set always 10c less than the wanted temp to get it working correctly, because the cpu temp reading from the mobo in windows is always -10c than the real one for me.
      • Tdie was just recently added to HWInfo. I'm guessing its temp of the CCD in the CPU, and Tctl/Tdie is maybe the whole CPU package (including IMC). Tctl/tdie and tdie are both pretty close (not +10 of eachother), I'd say they're both useful. level 1
      • I'm trying to monitor the log file from HWiNFO64 ( hwinfo.com ), but the csv file has some quirks that Splunk doesn't like. The two main problems are percent signs in the column names, and missing leading zeros in the time stamps. Although it should be valid to not include leading zeros for the minutes and seconds, Splunk can not parse this out of the box. Every hour the first ten minutes are ...
      • I'm trying to monitor the log file from HWiNFO64 ( hwinfo.com ), but the csv file has some quirks that Splunk doesn't like. The two main problems are percent signs in the column names, and missing leading zeros in the time stamps. Although it should be valid to not include leading zeros for the minutes and seconds, Splunk can not parse this out of the box. Every hour the first ten minutes are ...
    • Dec 22, 2019 · CPU Die (average) sensor "Current" column is matching Ryzen Master, HWINFO 43C RM 42.8C in your new screenie. CPU (Tctl/Tdie) sensor has no averaging on it, this is as Tctl is supposed to be, as per AMD developers guide information. A rotational value of the multiple sensors on die, showing highest value at an instance.
      • Feb 15, 2020 · The Tctl/Tdie temp is the one controlling (ctl) the CPU cooler when AirTower or stock cooler is used. When using AIO the best is to have it control fans on water temp. If you read that thread closely the Tctl/Tdie is the absolute hotspot inside CPU.
      • well.. the tdie temp on hwinfo is correct as I understand it... tctl is an offset temp with a + 10c offset. as for bios help, I suggest using stock settings with only memory docp settings enabled and performance enhancer or amd precision boost overdrive turned on... anything else usually sacrifices your peak single thread speeds (mine reaches 4.35 ghz) so unless you can achieve an all core OC ...
      • Nov 05, 2019 · Here's how to monitor your computer's CPU temperature, and lower it if needed. ... (like HWInfo here) displays two CPU temperatures for Ryzen processors, look for the “Tdie” reading.
      • Feb 15, 2020 · The Tctl/Tdie temp is the one controlling (ctl) the CPU cooler when AirTower or stock cooler is used. When using AIO the best is to have it control fans on water temp. If you read that thread closely the Tctl/Tdie is the absolute hotspot inside CPU.
      • Tdie was just recently added to HWInfo. I'm guessing its temp of the CCD in the CPU, and Tctl/Tdie is maybe the whole CPU package (including IMC). Tctl/tdie and tdie are both pretty close (not +10 of eachother), I'd say they're both useful. level 1
      • Yeah I've just downloaded the latest Beta version, it has some new things there. Now I have a 'CPU Tdie' temperature under AMD Ryzen 1700X right under 'CPU Tctl'. Is this the real CPU temp because of that offset thing on the 1700X and 1800X CPUs? I still can't find the VRM temperature for the motherboard though.
      • I thought Tdie was the internal temp and that Tctl was the adjusted temp? I know Tctl is higher though for sure so I made the fan speed adjustments based on that instead of Tdie. Idling around it actually drops into the 50s. I'm curious what folks using the stock cooler get for max top CPU speed across all cores with prime95 running too.
      • Martin, HWiNFO Author wrote:-CPU (Tctl): This is the T_control temperature available on AMD CPUs only. On several generations before Zen (Ryzen), this is not a reliable representation of the temperature. On AMD Zen series this is the temperature used to control cooling and is a fixed offset from the real CPU temperature.
      • I'm trying to monitor the log file from HWiNFO64 ( hwinfo.com ), but the csv file has some quirks that Splunk doesn't like. The two main problems are percent signs in the column names, and missing leading zeros in the time stamps. Although it should be valid to not include leading zeros for the minutes and seconds, Splunk can not parse this out of the box. Every hour the first ten minutes are ...
      • Feb 20, 2017 · When using the HwInfo plugin, the temperature being shown didn't match any of the sensors in HWiNFO64, even when both that and AB were set to the same polling interval (1000ms). It looked like it was the same as the "CPU (Tctl/Tdie)", but with a slight delay.
      • Could be something with the offset, but it doesn't make sense and would have to be a bug with the BIOS or something. HWINFO shows my Tctl temp as ~90c and Tdie as ~70c . This is correct as Tctl is temp+offset. Ryzen Master is also supposed to show true temp with no offset.
      • Aug 09, 2012 · the processor temperature relative to the point at which the system must supply the maximum cooling for the. processor’s specified maximum case temperature and maximum thermal power dissipation. It is defined as follows. for all parts: • For Tctl = 0 to Tctl_max - 0.125: the temperature of the part is [Tctl_max - Tctl] degrees under the ...
      • Jul 18, 2019 · Hello everyone! Recently I mentioned strange temperature information on my Ryzen 5. Using HWiNFO - Tctl/Tdie temp shows me 80+ degrees C. I know about -20 regarding this indicator, but still seems to be a high temperature in idle.
      • Apr 02, 2017 · What I'm finding is that in Package in HWMon, CPU (Tctl) in HWiNFO, and Temperature in Ryzen Master are all the same (they'll show different temps at times due to their update speed, as well as decimal place differences due to being coded different), which on the 1700X and 1800X is the temp you're supposed to SUBTRACT 20C from in order to get ...
    • Aug 31, 2017 · Just make sure to put it on relatively thin, and only over the cores, not to the edge of the spreader, otherwise it could run over and cause trouble, also very thinly wet the CPU block with it. Why am I even telling this, like you don't know how to apply that stuff, har.
      • I'm trying to monitor the log file from HWiNFO64 ( hwinfo.com ), but the csv file has some quirks that Splunk doesn't like. The two main problems are percent signs in the column names, and missing leading zeros in the time stamps. Although it should be valid to not include leading zeros for the minutes and seconds, Splunk can not parse this out of the box. Every hour the first ten minutes are ...
      • May 28, 2018 · Hello, I have some questions about somethings. First question: When i’m using HWInfo which is the correct temp Tctl or Tdie i’m not used to using HWInfo i have pretty much used HWMointor, I’m going to guess it’s Tdie but i’m not sure, Here’s a screenshot. Are my temps good, I haven’t done any stress testing either, Not sure what program to use and how long should i let the stress ...
    • I'm trying to monitor the log file from HWiNFO64 ( hwinfo.com ), but the csv file has some quirks that Splunk doesn't like. The two main problems are percent signs in the column names, and missing leading zeros in the time stamps. Although it should be valid to not include leading zeros for the minutes and seconds, Splunk can not parse this out of the box. Every hour the first ten minutes are ...
      • Not completely sure witch CPU Temp i should be looking at. Should i be looking at the CPU (tctl) Or just CPU, Under my MOBO? Im using HWiNFO With RainMeter. Please note that the highlighted Temps are the same i just took the screenshot at the wrong time.
      • Feb 20, 2017 · When using the HwInfo plugin, the temperature being shown didn't match any of the sensors in HWiNFO64, even when both that and AB were set to the same polling interval (1000ms). It looked like it was the same as the "CPU (Tctl/Tdie)", but with a slight delay.
      • If we look at HWinfo, we can see it shows both temperature sensor outputs; both tDIE and tCTRL. Again, tDIE is the real CPU temp, tCTRL is the sensor output that has 20'c Added to it on the 1700x and 1800x CPU's. Here is my Ryzen 1800x shown in HWInfo. As you can see I am sitting at 29.3'C (Real temp), and tCTRL is reporting 49'C. However...
      • Jul 18, 2019 · Hello everyone! Recently I mentioned strange temperature information on my Ryzen 5. Using HWiNFO - Tctl/Tdie temp shows me 80+ degrees C. I know about -20 regarding this indicator, but still seems to be a high temperature in idle.
      • Tdie is the temperature on the die, so that's the one you want to concentrate on. Tctl is the control temperature, which is what gets reported to your cooling system. The 20C offset is to get it to kick in sooner (it's only for the X versions). The third one is the temperature of the motherboard by the CPU.

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Oct 23, 2017 · (Tdie is the temp reported without the 20c offset added) So is it Tctl max temp 95c which has the 20c offset added? or. Tdie 95c max, which is no offset just actual temp? A bit confusing, no? Because it's not really officially clarified. I monitor Tdie temp in HWinfo because that show the actual temp of my cpu, without the bogus added 20c offset.

Mar 14, 2017 · In a post on their official blog, AMD explained that their 7 series CPUs have a sensor called "T Control".Otherwise called tCTL, it's the primary sensor on the Ryzen series of CPUs that reports ... Feb 15, 2020 · The Tctl/Tdie temp is the one controlling (ctl) the CPU cooler when AirTower or stock cooler is used. When using AIO the best is to have it control fans on water temp. If you read that thread closely the Tctl/Tdie is the absolute hotspot inside CPU. Dec 22, 2019 · CPU Die (average) sensor "Current" column is matching Ryzen Master, HWINFO 43C RM 42.8C in your new screenie. CPU (Tctl/Tdie) sensor has no averaging on it, this is as Tctl is supposed to be, as per AMD developers guide information. A rotational value of the multiple sensors on die, showing highest value at an instance. Tdie and Tctl. Tdie is the real measurement. This is the one that throttles the CPU if it goes too far. The 1800X's page lists max temperature as 95°C. The 1700 (non X) also lists it at 95°C. Same silicon. Tctl is Tdie + 20°C, this is only used for fan control. Decent monitoring software like hwinfo could always see both. On UEFI 1403, for X CPU, also set Sense MI Skew: Disabled. tCTL has had the 20°C offset removed but CPU Sensor under "Asus Crosshair VI Hero" section of HWiNFO, has not been set to match tCTL in the case of X CPU. CPU Sensor is Super IO Chip reading of tCTL and removing a further 20°C.

Feb 15, 2020 · The Tctl/Tdie temp is the one controlling (ctl) the CPU cooler when AirTower or stock cooler is used. When using AIO the best is to have it control fans on water temp. If you read that thread closely the Tctl/Tdie is the absolute hotspot inside CPU. Tdie and Tctl. Tdie is the real measurement. This is the one that throttles the CPU if it goes too far. The 1800X's page lists max temperature as 95°C. The 1700 (non X) also lists it at 95°C. Same silicon. Tctl is Tdie + 20°C, this is only used for fan control. Decent monitoring software like hwinfo could always see both. Yeah I've just downloaded the latest Beta version, it has some new things there. Now I have a 'CPU Tdie' temperature under AMD Ryzen 1700X right under 'CPU Tctl'. Is this the real CPU temp because of that offset thing on the 1700X and 1800X CPUs? I still can't find the VRM temperature for the motherboard though.

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Aug 31, 2017 · Just make sure to put it on relatively thin, and only over the cores, not to the edge of the spreader, otherwise it could run over and cause trouble, also very thinly wet the CPU block with it. Why am I even telling this, like you don't know how to apply that stuff, har. Jul 18, 2019 · Hello everyone! Recently I mentioned strange temperature information on my Ryzen 5. Using HWiNFO - Tctl/Tdie temp shows me 80+ degrees C. I know about -20 regarding this indicator, but still seems to be a high temperature in idle. well.. the tdie temp on hwinfo is correct as I understand it... tctl is an offset temp with a + 10c offset. as for bios help, I suggest using stock settings with only memory docp settings enabled and performance enhancer or amd precision boost overdrive turned on... anything else usually sacrifices your peak single thread speeds (mine reaches 4.35 ghz) so unless you can achieve an all core OC ...

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Tdie was just recently added to HWInfo. I'm guessing its temp of the CCD in the CPU, and Tctl/Tdie is maybe the whole CPU package (including IMC). Tctl/tdie and tdie are both pretty close (not +10 of eachother), I'd say they're both useful. level 1 Csgo 1440x1080 crosshair
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